On Mon, May 13, 2002 at 09:53:18AM -0500, Nate Carlson wrote: > On Fri, 10 May 2002, Mike Horwath wrote: > > Hate to sound like a naysayer, but bandwidth costs money. :( > > Never said there wouldn't be a charge for access. > > To start with, it'll just be us hobbiests, and I'm sure some of us will be > willing to give away (semi-legally?) our cable/dsl bandwidth to other real > geeks.. but, once we start to grow, we'll have to figure out a way to > charge for it. And how are you going to 'share' that bandwidth? Some horrible and massive NAT table and central router? Sounds like a bitch to maintain. A big ass caching proxy server? (which would be very cool). > > I wish it were free, I would love to give away some. > > You _sure_ you don't want to donate 3mbit of that shiny new OC3 to > tcwug? It's not like you're even stressing it yet... heck, that'd > even make it worth turning TCWUG into a real nonprofit so you can > get a writeoff for it! :) I don't make those decisions alone. Also, how would you get 'my' bandwidth? I am not going to pay for more roof space (already did that for other projects) and while I would happily host it out of my home, the T1 costs are still $220/T1 per month. And being in Golden Valley - who lives around me to 'relay' off of? Then let's get into the issue that 802.11b doesn't allow me a nice clean solution for my inhouse wireless, think of how much interference I'll get if I had a roofmount antenna? :) If you guys can find a way to get the bandwidth from 'me', I'll find a way to donate some. There will be a big AUP put into place, though, as I can not stand abuse or theft of services. This might make some people shy away because I am a hardass. So be it. -- Mike Horwath IRC: Drechsau drechsau at Geeks.ORG Home: 763-540-6815 1901 Sumter Ave N, Golden Valley, MN 55427 Opinions stated in this message, or any message posted by myself through my Geeks.ORG address, are mine and mine alone, period.