On Sun, 1 Dec 2002, Neal wrote: > I suggest that we abandon IRC for a more secure method for > collaboration. We could use either AOL or MSN Messenger, or ICQ. "more secure"?! have you ever run a packet sniffer on a network with people using aol, msn, or icq? you can read their messages just as easily as irc.. iirc, AOL actually sells a gateway product for corporations that sniffs and logs everyone's AIM traffic now, too.. -- Nate Carlson <natecars at real-time.com> | Phone : (952)943-8700 http://www.real-time.com | Fax : (952)943-8500