> ISP sets up VPN server on network. > ISP offers pay-for-access model to anyone, but doesn't mention TCWUG, > just makes a pretty map. > Users have no knowledge of TCWUG and what the network is coming from > TCWUG gets -$0- and falls fast into disarray with glut of new users. > > I've also done some thinking on how to mitigate that situation and I've > come up with a bunch of blanks. Most of them revolve on how to provide > open access to individuals while denying abusive access. keep in mind that we probably don't have to worry about controlling access for some time... we've still got a long way to go before having reliable and halfway-widely-available access across the 'Cities. Only at that point does it start to become a concern, I think. Your points are valid tho, and well-taken. Carl Soderstrom. -- Systems Administrator Real-Time Enterprises www.real-time.com