all- it would seem that there are some varied interests within the group above and beyond the desire to build out a community wireless network. in an effort to scratch these itches - i've taken the liberty of trying something different. (and something that we discussed in our meeting on tuesday) in addition to our usual banter regarding locations, overlay vs. hotspot and such i'm working to get us a "guest speaker" - initially it's looking like these speakers will come from amongst us. we can take the first 45 minutes or so of the meeting and focus on this topic in a more formal manner. to that end the first topic (09/03/2002) we'll be covering will be wardriving for beginners. this will be presented by our own matthew hallacy. this will be an overview of some of the more popular wireless sniffing tools as well as some practical tips on getting your own wireless sniffing configuration setup. frankly, i've selected this topic because of its sex appeal. it has some geek interest and there are some very practical applications for the use of such tools in corporate america today. this is something that we can publicize to other folks who might not necessarily have an interest in our overlay vs. hotspot banter but would be interested in this for their own networks and as a way to do something cool with their cars. the second topic that i'm working to get us a speaker for is a radio technology primer. clearing up the confusion regarding power, antennas and providing a basic introduction to the technologies associated with RF networks. more as it happens. feedback regarding topics of interest would be appreciated and i'll work what contacts i have (if you have contact willing to cover some of these topics as well that's always appreciated) to get us speakers. -- steve ulrich sulrich at botwerks.org PGP: 8D0B 0EE9 E700 A6CF ABA7 AE5F 4FD4 07C9 133B FAFC